Interview with Ella Schram, 1977

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Interview with Ella Schram, 1977
Schram, Ella (Interviewee)
Gruen, John (Interviewer)

Dance Audio Archive

Dates / Origin
Date Created: 1977-07-19
Library locations
Jerome Robbins Dance Division
Shelf locator: *MGZTCO 3-784
Bruhn, Erik, 1928-1986
Schram, Ella
Citation/reference: For edited transcript of interview (in English) see: *MGZMT 3-784.
Content: Title supplied by cataloger.
Venue: Recorded by John Gruen 1977, July 19 Copenhagen (Denmark)
Funding: The conservation and cataloging of this recording was made possible in part by the New York State Council on the Arts with the support of Governor Andrew Cuomo and the New York State Legislature. The support of the National Endowment for the Arts is also gratefully acknowledged.
Acquisition: Gift John Gruen
Content: Streaming audio file 1 (approximately 46 minutes). Ella Schram, longtime housekeeper for Erik Bruhn's family, speaks with John Gruen (Steen Trojabong is the interpreter) about the Bruhn family and her relationship with them; Bruhn's relationship with his mother; her first getting to know Bruhn well after the death of his mother; a typical day when Bruhn is home; the change in Bruhn after his surgery [for a perforated ulcer]; her friendship with Bruhn including their regular correspondence; her response to seeing Bruhn as Madge in La sylphide; his personality; her admiration for Bruhn. [Ends abruptly but continues on streaming audio file 2.]
Content: Streaming audio file 2 (approximately 15 minutes). Ella Schram, with Steen Trojabong as interpreter, continues to speak with John Gruen about her friendship with Erik Bruhn.
Physical Description
Extent: 1 audiocassette (approximately 1 hr.) : quarter-track; 1.875 ips
Sound quality is fair. The recording is marred by extraneous noise including "tape hiss" and occasional short gaps.
Interview with Ella Schram conducted by John Gruen on July 19, 1977 in Copenhagen, Denmark, as research for his book Erik Bruhn: danseur noble (Viking Press, New York, 1979). The interview is conducted in both Danish and English, with Steen Trojaborg serving as interpreter.
Type of Resource
Sound recording
RLIN/OCLC: 80123883
NYPL catalog ID (B-number): b12118660
Universal Unique Identifier (UUID): 589a3090-7960-0136-c6d8-35553a27be60
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Jerome Robbins Dance Division, The New York Public Library. "Interview with Ella Schram" The New York Public Library Digital Collections. 1977.

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Jerome Robbins Dance Division, The New York Public Library. "Interview with Ella Schram" New York Public Library Digital Collections. Accessed December 5, 2019.

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Interview with Ella Schram