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Interview with Frederic Franklin, Part 7 of 7: November 3 and 5, 1981

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Interview with Frederic Franklin, Part 7 of 7: November 3 and 5, 1981
Franklin, Frederic, 1914-2013 (Interviewee)
Conway, Peter, 1929 July 18- (Interviewer)

Dance Oral History Project

Dates / Origin
Date Created: 1981-11-03
Date Created: 1981-11-05
Library locations
Jerome Robbins Dance Division
Shelf locator: *MGZTO 5-1095
Franklin, Frederic, 1914-2013 -- Interviews
Ashton, Frederick, Sir, 1904-1988
Danilova, Alexandra, 1907-1997
Lifar, Serge, 1905-1986
Béjart, Maurice
Balanchine, George
National Ballet (Washington, D.C.)
Dance Theatre of Harlem
Night (Choreographic work : Sokolow)
Legend of the pearl (Choreographic work : Starbuck)
Tango chikane (Choreographic work : Flindt)
Othello (Choreographic work : Corelli)
Through the edge (Choreographic work : Lopuszanski)
Péri (Choreographic work : Skibine)
Oral histories
Additional physical form: For transcript of interview see *MGZMT 5-1095.
Source note: Interview with Frederic Franklin conducted by Peter Conway for the Jerome Robbins Dance Division Oral History Project at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts at Lincoln Center, on November 3 and 5, 1981. Part 1 (April 30 and May 1, 1979), Part 2 (May 7 and 8, 1979), Part 3 (May 11 and 18, 1979), Part 4 (October 24 and 25, 1979), Part 5 (October 9, 12, and 22, 1981), and Part 6 (October 22, 23, and 27,1981) are cataloged separately.
Bibliographic history: Title supplied by cataloger.
Source characteristics: Sound quality is good overall.
Venue: Recorded by Peter Conway for The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts November 3 and 5 New York (N.Y.)
Funding: The conservation and cataloging of this recording was made possible in part by the New York State Council on the Arts with the support of Governor Andrew Cuomo and the New York State Legislature. The support of the National Endowment for the Arts is also gratefully acknowledged.
Physical Description
Audiotape reel
Extent: 1 audiotape reel (approximately 3 hr., 15 min.); polyester; half-track; 1.875 ips; 5 in
Streaming audio file 1, November 3, 1981 (approximately one hour and 37 minutes). Frederic Franklin speaks with Peter Conway about the National Ballet and its eclectic repertory including Anna Sokolow's Night; the fundamental difference between modern dance training and ballet training; modern dancers who impressed him when he was young, including Martha Graham, in her work Every soul is a circus; Doris Humphrey, in her work Life of the bee; Charles Weidman, and Carmelita Maracci; the need for more well-rounded training for ballet students; his thoughts on stage dancing, for example Bob Fosse's choreography; the greater appreciation seen for Leonide Massine's works in Europe as compared with in the United States; an anecdote about Massine and Roland Guerard and the role of the Bluebird; Valerie Bettis' Early voyagers; Jimmy [James] Starbuck's Legend of the pearl; Juan Corelli's Othello; John Cranko's Catalyst and his Jeu de cartes; his own choreographic process including as compared with that of Frederick Ashton; Franklin's pas de deux set to music [by Léo Delibes] from Sylvia, created for the Cincinnati Ballet Company [name changed to Cincinnati Ballet in 1982]; Francisco Moncion's Night song; George Skibine's La péri; Michael Lopuszanski's Through the edge and his Seeds (?); Flemming Flindt's Tango chikane; Jean Paul Comelin's Out of darkness; the lack of protection of choreographers' rights; regional ballet including ballet schools; financial aspects of ballet companies in the United States; Walter Gore's Eaters of darkness; differences in the reception of various ballets in the United States and in England [ends abruptly]. Streaming audio file 2, November 5, 1981 (approximately one hour and 38 minutes). Frederic Franklin speaks with Peter Conway about favorite roles including Albrecht; performances that made a big impression on him including Anna Pavlova in 1981, Alexandra Danilova in 1928; performances by Anton Dolin and Alicia Markova and Leonide Massine; Galina Ulanova; his impressions of the younger generation of Russian dancers including Rudolf Nureyev, Mikhail Baryshnikov, and Natasha [Natalia] Makarova; the fundamental reasons for differences in style between the Russian dancers and the American dancers; his impressions of various dancers and choreographers including Danilova; Massine (as a dancer); Markova; Jean Babilée including an anecdote about his performance of the Bluebird; Zizi Jeanmarie and Roland Petit; Nina Vyroubova; Serge Lifar; Maurice Béjart in particular his use of male dancers; Jiri Kylian; George Balanchine; Kenneth MacMillan's Isadora; his work with the Dance Theatre of Harlem; current projects.
Type of Resource
Sound recording
RLIN/OCLC: 994748880
NYPL catalog ID (B-number): b21304384
Universal Unique Identifier (UUID): 35831ca0-c7d4-0135-a5e4-6d3117ebbb3c
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  • 1981: Created (Approximate)
  • 2013: Creator Died
  • 2020: Digitized
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Jerome Robbins Dance Division, The New York Public Library. "Interview with Frederic Franklin" The New York Public Library Digital Collections. 1981 - 1981.

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Interview with Frederic Franklin